Does God Exist? The Moral Argument [Video]

Does God exist? In this weekly video, Haden briefly explains “The Moral Argument”:

1. If God does not exist, there are no objective moral values and duties.

2. There are objective moral values and duties.

3. Therefore, God exists.

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5 Replies to “Does God Exist? The Moral Argument [Video]”

  1. If Hitler had won the war, he would be probably now be considered objectively good, as everyone would be indoctrinated by Nazi ideology. If someone had succeeded in murdering Hitler, would the murderer be evil? Why is the dropping of the Atom Bomb on Japan not considered morally evil? If God gives objective moral teachings, why are the teachings of one church in the Christian faith different to the teachings of other congregations? Where is the objectivity in all this? If you need to search the Bible to answer these questions, how can those conclusions be objective?

  2. Hitler winning the war wouldn’t have had any effect on whether or not his actions were morally right. I did have a good chuckle at that, though. That was a very funny analogy.

    If someone had killed Hitler, as an adult, then their actions would have been morally right. Scripture is clear about that. We’re obligated to preserve innocent life, even if it means we must take a life in the process.

    The act of dropping the atomic bomb on Japan was evil at its core. Unfortunately, it was the lesser of two evils. If our forces had invaded Japan itself, the death toll would have been drastically higher, especially given that the Japanese government had begun to mobilize civilian militias by that point. Instead of a death toll in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, it would have been in the millions. I don’t doubt for a second that the person making that call went the remainder of their lives without a full night’s sleep, but their decision saved the lives of millions on both sides, and that is what makes it morally justified.

    To answer the remainder, it’s really quite simple. While different denominations emphasize one doctrinal concept or another, it doesn’t in any way detract from the Truth of Scripture overall. As a non-denominational Christian, I don’t adhere to anything that can’t be found somewhere between Genesis and Revelation, which would place me at odds with everyone, if that wasn’t true. However, thankfully, that isn’t the case.

    The issue, I think, that you are having with the whole thing is that you don’t trust the Bible as the Word of God, so it seems all kinds of subjective to you. This isn’t anything unusual, though. Most people don’t trust the Bible, because they haven’t been taught to. I assure you, for what that’s worth, that the Bible is absolutely true. It is the measure by which we ought to compare all Truth.

    God did give us an objective moral standard. It’s known as the Moral Law, and encompasses much of the Torah, including the Ten Commandments. These are hard and fast rules, literally carved in stone, on which God made clear He would never compromise. Even Jesus made clear that His purpose was to uphold that Law. He made no changes to it.

    There is nothing subjective about looking to the Bible for moral teachings. Everything it says about human nature is as true now as it was when each of those books were written. Not one thing has changed. We are all still sinful, wretched, and driven by our flesh. Our righteous deeds are still as filthy rags begore our Father, without the saving grace of the Lord Jesus Christ. We are all still in desperate need of the salvation offered as a free gift to us, through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross.

    That sacrifice is so essential that it IS the entire Gospel Message. That God so loved us that He chose to take on human flesh, come down to earth, and die as act of atonement for our sins, so that we may have everlasting life in the Kingdom with Him. That is the central message that Jesus commanded us to share with all nations, and all tongues. He is the Good News, and His gift is free, no strings.

  3. Whatever … it still boils down to a question of faith, not of logic. You have faith that scripture is the word of God, and because you believe that a universal moral truth comes from the Bible you have faith that a moral truth exists and therefore God exists. Not of that “proves” the existence of God, it only proves one can have faith in something so hard that that person believes it becomes a universal truth, but that is an illusion. The Bible doesn’t prove God, anymore than Coca Cola’s advertising campaign proves that it is the only “real thing”.
    I understand you have faith, and I believe in the sincerity of your faith, but your Bible-based arguments can’t prove anything else.

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